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#92535 - 02/06/11 09:55 PM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: Paul Lasecki]
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Good game. Not a blowout. Rodgers played great. Wallace had 8 catches and a TD for Pitt. Good defensive play by the Packers.
I'm happy.
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#92541 - 02/07/11 10:43 AM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: jazzwriter]
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Great game. I knew the Steelers were outta luck when they asked Shawn Suisham to kick a 42 yard field goal. They would been better served by punting.
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#92546 - 02/07/11 06:52 PM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: TR808]
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It was 52. From that distance, they had a better chance of getting the 1st down. A punt would have made more sense.
I like that the turnovers were all from good defensive plays and not QBs throwing to no-man's land, receivers tipping passes or running the wrong routes, or RBs not protecting the ball. There weren't a lot of penalties, which is always a good thing, but the personal foul on special teams and the one sequence where Green Bay gave up 30 yds of field position on flags give the game a minor slop factor.
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#92548 - 02/07/11 08:30 PM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: jazzwriter]
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Was the 52 yd fg attempt the one that was way left from the get-go? Cuz in watching my tape re-run, dude had plenty of leg on that one. Indoor+on new arti-turf, not as much as a gamble as a 40 yd-er outside on a frozen field would have been, in my opine. I am glad that the two in game injuries to key Packers did not cost them the game. That would have bit. Both the Pack and Pitt were impressive. Very closely matched. Again-in 100 head to head games, the Pack wins 55, Pitt 45. Pack one of my faves since my 1967 electric football game, and a book I read about "The Pass"-Starr to Max McGee, and "The Block"by Jerry Kramer in SBowl 1. That makes 3 of the past 4 Super Bowls now for the far superior NFC...hehhehheh. Rogers was tough! 300 plus yds with no INT 2TD in his first SB. Thought the officials missed several contact-beyond 5 yds calls. "Letting them play" EQUALS allowing jungle ball and not calling fouls that WOULD be called in reg season. I HATE that. Happens in NBA even more and that helps boston.
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#92847 - 03/11/11 03:25 PM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: Paul Lasecki]
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Well it would seem that we may not have NFL football in 2011. Now you would think that a collection of grown men, most of who are college graduates making huge amounts of money (players and ownership) could have found a reasonable way to not to shoot the golden goose.

I had the pleasure (and indeed it was) to attend a Colts game this past season. Tickets were $260 each so that's $520 off the top add in another $100 for food and drinks and $200 at the gift shop and the cost is at $820 not to mention the overnight stay and and the expense of the drive down. Now in my case it really cost me nothing because I won the whole package, but if I had been paying for this thing for the wife and I it would have been somewhere in the area of $1200 for an afternoon game. Thats a good two or three weeks pay for me to go see a gathering of players making far more then I do. I watched the game in a stadium that my tax dollars help build and these two sides cannot come to an agreement on how to split up a few BILLION dollars! Come on guys pull your heads out of your backsides and get a deal done.

Ownership needs to back of the billion is says it needs for stadium upkeep when most of you are hell bent on holding your communities for more and more money and better facilities or you will leave town. (my own Colts included) Frankly the players could back off on the $100 million dollar salaries to plays a boys game. Not saying you all should not be well paid but a top out should worth considering, after most of us are bound by that. And both sides need to find a way to place more of this money in the hands of all those guys who played back in the day before free agency, before unions who just basicly got screwed. Without them there is no game today.

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#92848 - 03/11/11 04:14 PM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: DaveS]
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The owners did not want the players to see their books. How can you determine how to split the huge sums of money the NFL makes when one side refuses to let the other side know what they are making?

The Colts are a bargain for what Dan Snyder is asking people to pay to see the sorry Redskins.
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#92863 - 03/12/11 01:00 PM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: TR808]
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TR don't get me wrong the seats I had were great and we had a good time...price was a bit much but that is of course based on a persons spendable income anyway.

Well most companies do not willingly open up their books to their workers and that is what the players are...just employees. But having said that maybe a little more effort on the part of owership would be a good thing. Especially on the asking by ownership the billion for stadium improvements and upkeep. Hell with the sweetheart deal the Colts got from the city Indianapolis they don't need a dime back. That is a bit sore spot here in the state.

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#92866 - 03/13/11 03:27 AM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: DaveS]
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I am not too happy with the lockout of course. I struggle financially so I don`t know what to say about this war between millionaires and billionaires. The only way I am ever going to a live football game is Dave`s way-win a contest. Or win the lotto. Heck, basketball, baseball, hockey are out of my financial strata too. 20 bucks just for parking. 20 bucks for a couple of hotdogs+a coke. I do love my sports on TV though. I guess I side with the players. Compared to the owners, the players are poor. The players are the talent. The owners cannot replace the players and maintain the ultra high level of play in pro games. So, I think the players deserve the money they are digging in to keep. I won`t be jazzed@the prospect of no football come September. But the owners remind me of rich business owners who hold the country hostage by threatening layoffs and/or price increases if there is a tax increase. Disgusting. Hope there is a special place in hell for those poor rich owners! Poor rich? LOL.
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#92874 - 03/13/11 11:14 AM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: Paul Lasecki]
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I agree, Paul. What's really bothersome about this time is it seems the owners were already talking lockout before they even began negotiations. Their minds were made up: "Do it our way, or we'll just sit on our a**es."
The national economy is still stuck in the mud, and these guys are willing to not only put the players and coaches out of work, but freeze out stadium staff, to say nothing of the millions in revenue that the cities would get - the very cities that most of the owners have played hardball with to get new stadiums.
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#92876 - 03/13/11 12:52 PM Re: NFL 2010-11 [Re: jazzwriter]
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Since when should players dictate what portion of owner profits they get?

Owners own, players play. Screw the players. Go find another job or go to a different league. If the owners charge too much, the stadiums will start thinning out. It's what the market will bear.

Would the players be willing to share in the owners losses too then?


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