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#89597 - 01/12/10 06:02 PM
Re: For lack of an appropriate place ...
[Re: stevec]
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I find the whole steriod baseball thing amusing. Do I think Maguire is a dirtbag? No doubt! He's been on more cycles than Lance Armstrong. Does he deserve to be in the hall of fame? Sure, why not, I watched him hit the HR's. Just put an asterisk there.
I'll assume all of those steriod-enhanced homers off all those steriod-enhanced pitchers really were hit...until all the owners, administrators and uniformed personnel who prospered from the era return the money. Who are they crapping?
Since baseball tolerated or enabled or encouraged steriod use, the game will have to live with the consequences. Can't have it both ways.
As a sidenote, why does everyone only talk about how steriods affected the "personal records"? What about team wins that led to playoff appearences and world series. That's almost more outrageous.
Edited by SH (01/12/10 06:34 PM)
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#89604 - 01/13/10 06:56 AM
Re: For lack of an appropriate place ...
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Temptation. Think about when you were in school. A big test is coming up. You know most of the material and were confident that you'd pass. Hours before the exam, you find that some of your classmates have a cheat sheet that covers material that you're a little unsure of. You tell yourself you don't need it because you know enough to pass that portion of the test. When the time comes, you see an opportunity. The teacher's not looking. Everyone sitting around you has used or intends to use the cheat sheet that's right there for you to grab. Do you let it go on to the next person? Or do you say to yourself, "Why not?" You could get an A instead of a B - a perfect score instead of a 90. Not to make excuses for anyone, but the widespread belief is that an overwhelming majority of MLB players from the late 1980s until around 2004 used a performance enhancer at one time or another. The ones who weren't using were isolated. So the superstars saw what it was doing for the average guys, and they saw how their numbers - and their teams' wins - were affected by the widespread use. And since baseball executives chose to ignore the problem, Bonds, McGwire and Sosa got swept up in it.
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#89614 - 01/13/10 12:43 PM
Re: For lack of an appropriate place ...
[Re: DaveS]
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I think for Bonds, it was a case of keeping up with the Joneses. His raw talent was on par with the best of the best, yet McGwire and Sosa separated from him in the home run department.
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#90130 - 03/29/10 01:20 PM
Re: For lack of an appropriate place ...
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Someone said that "we must fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here"! What do you do when they are already here? The Hutarees remind me of Al Qaida! Who are the Christian militia 'Hutarees' and why was the FBI targeting them?
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#90146 - 03/31/10 09:03 PM
Re: For lack of an appropriate place ...
[Re: SH]
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They're digging in again: Oil drilling panned criticized Isn't some increase in domestic oil production better than none?
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#90149 - 04/01/10 04:00 AM
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[Re: jazzwriter]
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It's the typical digs from the same people! As usual, they bring the criticism without mentioning a solution. What is their plan for energy independence? Along the way, these guys developed the notion that their job was to serve a party! Politicians like John Boehner see oil drilling as yet another opportunity to say 'no' and not a chance to solve a problem.
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