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#88876 - 11/17/09 05:07 AM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: SH]
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Honestly.... the only other network I ever see discuss ratings... is CNBC, FOX's former favorite target.

They all do it on FOX - O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity - in my opinion, if they say it enough, people will believe it.

It's not bragging rights - it's Rupert Murdoch trying to stir people up. Irresponsible journalism.
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#88883 - 11/17/09 07:04 PM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: Kat]
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Our rival station says it all the time that they're number 1 in the market. In their promos. And when the reporters tag out their packages.
Point of reference: A voice-over is when the anchor reads the story behind the video. A package is when the reporter narrates the story and usually ends with the reporting stating name, location and station/network - not necessarily in that order.
To a point, they're right. Their signal is stronger than ours, so the range over the air is about 50 miles farther. So if you look at it from the point of their being available to more homes, they are No. 1. And no doubt, in the fringe areas where homes that don't have cable can't get us, they're the favorite.
But here in town, where both stations' headquarters are, where the majority of stories by both stations are done, we are overwhelmingly preferred.
When I go into businesses that have TVs on a local channel, they're on ours. When I meet people who comment about local news, I occasionally run into one who prefers the other channel, and there are some who watch both. But most people who recognize me from TV - they wouldn't know me otherwise - don't watch our rival except for certain network programs, like Dancing with the Stars, Lost and sports.
It's annoying, sometimes aggravating, to hear them crow several times a day. But we feel no need to one-up them. The fact that we know we do a better job in the areas that we cover, and that our viewers appreciate us, is plenty.
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#88886 - 11/17/09 07:37 PM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: jazzwriter]
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ok... and discuss - because the media is pretty much divided on this one (although Sarah Palin's book seems to have overshadowed all other real news this week).




http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics..._emperor_a.html

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Low blow: Ex-VP Dick Cheney slams President Obama for bowing to Japanese Emperor Akihito

Dick Cheney is blasting Barack Obama for plunging the presidency to a new low - by bowing to the Japanese emperor.

The White House deemed the weekend gesture a sign of respect. But Cheney chided it was downright wimpy.

"There is no reason for an American president to bow to anyone," Cheney complained to the Politico.com. "Our friends and allies don't expect it, and our enemies see it as a sign of weakness."

Maybe Cheney would prefer if Obama and Emperor Akihito had simply walked hand-in-hand, as former President George W. Bush did with Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah in 2005 - a traditional sign of Middle Eastern friendship.



Or perhaps Cheney is forgetting that ex-President Richard Nixon, a Republican, bowed in 1971 to Akihito's father, Emperor Hirohito - who ruled when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941.

No matter, Obama's bow - a full-on, bend-to-the-waist affair - had the Miss Manners set all atwitter yesterday as those on both sides debated the diplomatic meaning of the gesture.

State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters that the bow was "a sign of respect to the emperor."

In an online State Department posting from 2007 titled "Protocol for the Modern Diplomat," envoys are advised to be aware of greeting rituals such as kisses, handshakes or bows and to follow a country's tradition.

"Failure to abide with tradition may be interpreted as rudeness or a lack of respect for colleagues," advises the posting, which make no mention of whether the rules should apply to a President as well.



I personally wish that Dick Cheney would find something more worthwhile to comment on.
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#88888 - 11/18/09 03:48 AM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: Kat]
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I agree. Years ago as a senior buyer I had many dealings with Japanese companies (Sanyo, JVC and a few others) and when we would meet in person is was quite common to bow out of respect particularly if they held a high position. I learned to abide by this custom and couldn't see it any other way.

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#88889 - 11/18/09 04:12 AM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: SH]
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I commend Bush for showing respect and keeping quiet. I didn't think he was a very good president but I always thought he was a likable person. I'll buy his memoire if he writes one. Cheney is just being himself!


Edited by TR808 (11/18/09 04:13 AM)
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#88893 - 11/18/09 10:50 AM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: TR808]
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If it is the custom of any nation to bow, it is then proper if not expected that president would do so. I wonder how the former VP would feel if were the Queen of England? Not to follow the custom would be a sign of disrespect on the part of President. Of course he was correct to do so and Mr. Cheney is way out line.

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#88900 - 11/18/09 06:10 PM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: DaveS]
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People get so caught up in gestures, it's ridiculous.
In the military, it is customary for enlisted personnel to address commissioned officers as "sir" or "ma'am." In boot camp, it was required to say "sir" to company commanders, who were upper-level enlisted. Yet I had this friend who refused to call any officer sir. "They're not better than me." He said. And I wanted to tell him nobody said they were. They're officers; we're enlisted. You knew coming in that you were going to be expected to salute and say sir. Why make such a big deal?
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#88930 - 11/19/09 02:23 PM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: jazzwriter]
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Fox's has another production problem.

Quote:
For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people to charge that the cable news network is intentionally misleading its audience, while Fox claims a "production error."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts988
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#88933 - 11/19/09 09:53 PM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: TR808]
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It makes one wonder.
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#88937 - 11/20/09 08:48 AM Re: For lack of an appropriate place ... [Re: jazzwriter]
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Who cares, really? Is this all the dirt they can find? I would think it IS a production error. How does it benefit FOX on whether 50 people are at a Sarah Palin book signing versus 10 people? Aren't the book sales numbers themselves the real indicator anyway? So stupid.....


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