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#80733 - 03/01/08 06:15 PM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: Bonnie S.]
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It's probably safe to say the smooth jazz stations owned by CBS Radio are safe. WJZW is owned by Citadel. In New York, Citadel owns WABC-AM, WEPN-AM, and WPLJ-FM. At the same time WJZW flipped formats, Rocky Allen was fired from PLJ during his shift! The former WQCD/current WRXP is owned by Emmis. According to the CBS Radio website, they own four smooth jazz stations: KTWV (94.7 The Wave) in L.A., KHJZ (95.7 The Wave) in Houston, WVMV (V98.7) in Detroit, and WSJT in Tampa-St. Petersburg. Everyone else, you could be next to go.
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#80738 - 03/02/08 11:46 AM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: Mike Chimeri]
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Well, if you ask me, that station was gone years ago when they started playing 20+ year old non sj music, and everything else under the sun. They just made it official, that's all. I haven't listened to it in years anyway. Good riddance!
However, I do feel sorry for the on air talent that lost their jobs. Many of them, like Al Santos, have been around for quite some time. He was around for the previous smooth jazz station (the one that used to be good) that folded in the late '80's/early '90's. I hope the radio personalities can weather this storm.
Edited by LibraLady (03/02/08 11:46 AM)
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#80764 - 03/03/08 09:56 PM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: LibraLady]
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There is a certain irony in a station that was hanging its image on playing covers of oldies being replaced by a station that plays real oldies. The consensus re: Baltimore is that it will be all BA Network very shortly. Even their PD, who was handpicked by BA to program the station because she had no background with the music and therefore would not question their decisions, came from top 40 and CC can move her into a Top 40 or A/C station if they decide not to cost cut and cut her.
There are very few live humans left in this format. I always feel bad for the people who lose thier jobs but all formats are moving toward automation. Citadel, Clear Channel, Emmis, Entercom, Cox...all are slashing their staffing to the bone. AM drive is being taken over by syndicated shows. PM drive is the last bastion of live radio, except in SJ where Koz has most stations now.
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#80829 - 03/07/08 07:10 AM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: Mike Chimeri]
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Denver flipped formats. Smooth Jazz Radio in Denver is no more. Here's the farewell letter from Smooth Jazz Denver <#event1> Greetings! Smooth Jazz is.....you fill in the blank. Here we go again! Last month, Smooth Jazz station CD 101.9 in NYC left, less than 30 days later, last Friday, DC's Smooth Jazz station WJZW is gone, and now today, less than a week later, we just received word that Denvers Smooth Jazz station announced to all of it's radio personalities and staff this morning, that the station will flip formats and become a sports station. WOW! Are internet radio stations and non-traditional marketing options the new ticket for artists now? hmmmmm? My good friend my former WNUA music director The legendary Michael Fischer has been the the program director in Denver for quite a while now. Remember the good ole days at WNUA/ Chicago when the music was awesome the station supported Indy artists by playing their music? Well, Michael Fischer was behind that whole push to support new talent!. He did the same thing for Indy artists in Denver all of these years. Mike Fischer has a great heart and a real love for good music. Like me, he's always gotten really excited over new talent! Mikes favorite words..."That's Killer". I'm sure Michael Fischer is going to help artist in some way, in the very near future. Good Luck Mike. You know I luv ya! Please stay tuned for our sound off Candid JAZZBLAST! Over the last 30 days, I've received over 15 full pages of email feedback reg arding these latest smooth jazz radio closings... What are people saying about it?......Stay tuned!!! What do you think is happening to Smooth jazz radio? Can it be saved? What needs to happen for the future of jazz? Send us your sound off opinion. Please email your comments to : candidjazzads@yahoo.com. Sincerely, Denise Jordan Walker /Founder CANDID JAZZBLAST© http://www.candidjazzandconversation.comDenise Jordan-Walker Here's the farewell letter from Smooth Jazz Denver What station will be next? Dear Smooth Jazz 104.3 Listener. We are sad to announce that Smooth Jazz will no longer be available on the 104.3FM frequency. Due to declining audience ratings over the past couple years combined with a decline in advertising support from our clients, we had no choice but to make the difficult decision to remove the Smooth Jazz format from the 104.3 frequency. . The staff of Smooth Jazz 104.3 would like to thank you for your support over these past 8 years. As many of you know, Smooth Jazz has been on an FM station in Denver for nearly 20 years as prior to Smooth Jazz 104.3 coming on the air, KHIH better remembered at K-HIGH programmed Smooth Jazz for many n years before changing format itself. Once again from all of us at Smooth Jazz 104.3. Thank you for your years of support!
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#80833 - 03/07/08 08:32 AM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: Kat]
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It's like dominos! One starts to fall and then boom, there go all the rest!
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#80846 - 03/07/08 09:06 PM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: Leslie]
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Michael Fisher support new talent? He was one of the core BA guys from the beginning and one of the ones who constantly crusaded for music testing, familiarity based programming, and shorter playlists. He was in RnR several times talking about how it was advantageous for BA to reduce the current list to 12-13 songs. I have an archive of quotes from him in old trade mags. Michael Fisher an advocate of new music and developing talent??? Huh???
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#80850 - 03/08/08 08:38 AM
Washington Post Article
[Re: Shannon West]
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Smooth Jazz Article Smooth Jazz: Gentle Into That Good Night? As the Genre Declines, Stations Switch To New Formats in D.C. and Nationwide
By Marc Fisher Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, March 9, 2008; Page M05
Born in focus groups conducted in windowless conference rooms, named by a radio station consultant, derided by critics, smooth jazz vanished from Washington's FM radio dial as the month began. It was 14 years old.
Actually, it was a listener who uttered the phrase that a consultant used to sum up this fusion of instrumental music styles. At a focus group held in Chicago by Broadcast Architecture, the firm that first sold radio stations on the new format in the early 1990s, a woman who was asked to describe the songs being tested blurted out "smooth jazz."
What she was describing was a jazzlike sound without the jazz essential of improvisation, a melody-driven, generally instrumental set of songs played primarily on instruments used in jazz. But even that fungible definition fell apart as smooth jazz spread to about 200 radio stations, including Washington's WJZW (105.9 FM), which switched to a 1960s-heavy rock oldies format. In recent years, smooth jazz came to mean not only saxmen Kenny G and Dave Koz but even singers Norah Jones, India.Arie and Sting.
Despite hoots and catcalls from fans of straight-ahead jazz and yawns from pop and rock lovers, smooth jazz was a rare kind of success -- a genre of music created not so much by the artists and the record industry as by radio programmers who identified a style, found an audience and inspired musicians to make the product.
As far back as the 1970s, the jazz fusion movement's lighter hits, from artists such as Bob James, George Benson and Spyro Gyra, won airplay not only on the handful of jazz stations around the country but on light rock and easy-listening stations. Chuck Mangione's "Feels So Good" from 1977 was probably the first smooth jazz hit, even if the genre didn't yet exist.
It wasn't until 1987, when a Los Angeles station became the first major outlet to devote itself to the music of David Sanborn, the Rippingtons and Al Jarreau, that a financial incentive developed for instrumentalists to write and record music that would serve as the aural wallpaper that this new format sought.
Radio programmers looking for a way to serve office workers and stressed-out commuters built a recipe including ingredients from fusion jazz, light R&B, pop balladeers and a few straight-jazz artists who followed guitarist Benson's lead toward less intellectually challenging, more melodic numbers.
From the start, critics hated the stuff, dismissing it as the elevator music of the '90s. Michael B¿rub¿, a cultural critic at Penn State University, defined the genre as "a form of musical waterskiing over the groove." But smooth jazz stations generally did well, winning an audience that was unusual for radio -- racially mixed, crossing boundaries of age, geography and income level.
It took until 2000 before the Grammy Awards added a pop instrumental album category to recognize smooth jazz stars, and the format's artists could never get away from having to defend themselves against the idea that they had sold out.
"I play songs people want to hear," saxophonist Kenny G told the Denver Post in a typical defense. "Critics don't bother me because I know I have integrity. . . . The jazz purists should be looking at me and saying 'thank you.' I've brought people into buying instrumental music. Maybe they'll open up and find an old Sonny Rollins or Charlie Parker record after that."
Other artists tried a different tack, denying that they fit the label. "We're not smooth jazz," trumpeter Chris Botti told the Boston Globe, even as he acknowledged that his music was not about "playing in a little tiny club and it sounds like a math test," but rather "playing big venues and it's pleasing."
The format was all about pleasant melodies, whether it's Kenny G's songful instrumentals or the soft vocals of an Anita Baker or Sade. For a good chunk of the '90s, the major force propelling CD sales of the music was the Weather Channel, which used smooth jazz as the background sound during its local weathercasts.
But smooth jazz has hit rough waters. New York City's CD101.9, for many years the nation's most popular smooth jazz station, died last month, replaced by a rock format. Philadelphia's smooth jazz outlet switched to a rhythmic hits format featuring everything from Alicia Keys and Beyonc¿ to Frankie Valli and Bon Jovi.
In Washington, WJZW's ratings had remained steady at the bottom of the market's top 10 stations -- a bit up over the past couple of years, but not enough to satisfy executives looking for a more profitable format.
In cities where the format is still thriving, such as Chicago, more adventuresome programmers are mixing some more traditional jazz into the playlist. Pianist and DJ Ramsey Lewis, who hosts a syndicated show heard on many smooth jazz stations, now blends some Oscar Peterson and Bud Powell in with the format's R&B and light jazz regulars.
In markets where radio companies killed off smooth jazz because of drooping ratings, listeners have often demanded a return of the music. That has happened in Milwaukee, Philadelphia and already in Washington, where both WASH (97.1 FM) and WJZW have announced plans to include smooth jazz on one of their HD channels, which require the purchase of a digital radio. Both satellite radio services, XM and Sirius, also have smooth jazz channels.
That may not be enough to calm the legions of agitated fans who have been calling the offices of WJZW's owner, Citadel Broadcasting, but in the radio industry, listeners' desire for relaxing background music is not a priority these days. With sales of advertising spots in sharp decline, programmers and advertisers alike are looking for listeners who will be paying close attention, and that means music that's front and center, not light and breezy.
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#80859 - 03/08/08 07:14 PM
Re: Washington Post Article
[Re: Kat]
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Marc Fisher wrote an excellent book on the history of pop music radio. He also did a beautiful job of dissecting BA's research method and showing all its glaring flaws. He made several excellent points here but obviously I would change the sentence "inspired musicians to make the product" to "forced musicians to make the product" there was no inspiration to it at all.
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#80968 - 03/14/08 11:20 AM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: hbh]
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So much for my prediction that CBS Radio would not let go of their smooth jazz stations. KHJZ in Houston is dead. http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard//messages/335614.htmlhttp://www.khjz.com/Still available online and on HD2 (just like the other station casualties), but now the station is Hot 95-7, Houston's Hot Hits. That's it. I'm going into talk radio. I'd get pounded by the far-left blogs and Keith Olbermann, but at least I'd be working in a genre that isn't on death watch.
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#80980 - 03/15/08 10:06 AM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: Leslie]
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Those Radio Info forums are sure getting interesting now. We've been underground for some time, now it's going to be even more so. I'm hoping the pundits thinking this is going to bring cj radio full circle are going to be right. I'd love to go back to those days. 'Course, it'll probably be online or HD (like I'm going to get an HD radio... seriously, I learned from having Sirius.  )
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#81087 - 03/18/08 09:18 PM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: Leslie]
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There is very little locally programmed SJ. I was looking at the list of "true" RnR reporters - the commercial stations - and there are only about 20 left. Most of them have Lewis in the Morning and Koz in the afternoon. Several are BA Network 24/7. Life in the post-radio era has officially begun. Time to get creative!
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#81239 - 03/28/08 12:34 PM
Re: DC Loses its smooth jazz station
[Re: hbh]
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Look above ya, hbh. Shannon lives in Jax.
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#81245 - 03/29/08 10:19 AM
Just a matter of time
[Re: jazzwriter]
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Most stations will flip this year.... a couple will survive.... probably the Wave, perhaps Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia (which sort of came back after a flip). I don't see the future as smooth.... yes, there are a great many people (I call them "smoothies") who are comfortable with it and they think it includes Luther Vandross, Sade and Anita Baker hits from 20 years ago. They don't have a clue as to how smooth jazz was born, what it represented to us in the late 80's and early 90's - and quite honestly, they don't care. Smooth jazz is the only outlet for music from yesterday that they can identify with. Corporate radio has essentially shut them out in favor of today's flavor of the month. I see the future as being a hybrid of fusion, jazz, funk and rock elements. This music will be available on satellite, HD, internet and indie sources. Distribution will be digital download - and if you go to a show, perhaps you can get an actual CD. I don't see the future as being revamped hits of yesterday. While the ""smoothies" may love it, the rest of us who aren't ready to become horizontal (nod to Cabbage!  ) - well, we want music which interests us and motivates us - and not necessarily because we want to sit back, relax and live a "lifestyle" pushed upon us by advertisers and market-meisters. These days, I see the collapse of smooth jazz radio as being a good thing. Because musicians and artists no longer will have to adhere to constraints and formats - and will hopefully focus on great music and melodies - rather than getting a spot in the rotation on corporate radio stations.
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#81246 - 03/29/08 01:47 PM
Re: Just a matter of time
[Re: Kat]
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The smoothies just haven't heard the stuff they are missing. I mean they are even missing Acoustic Alchemy, Spyro Gyra, the Rippingtons and even the Boney and Peter White songs that are not covers. when they hear them they will totally light up. It's like one of the guys who commented in RnR mentioned. They give you the red couch, the blue couch and the green couch and ask you to choose which one you like best but what if you really want purple or yellow. Or would want purple or yellow if you saw them too.
There are already so many signs of life and inspiration coming from the people who were exiled and/or fired from stations when BA took over. Now everyone is talking about starting brunch shows, podcasting, putting up internet stations. One thing I pressed in my "One Station Fits All" editorial last year which kind of predicted this whole mess was that when the "Think tank" is reduced to three people who affirm each other and no new ideas are allowed to seep through stagnation cccurs big time, which is what has happened. When this happens you have to do the same thing that you do with a stagnant pond or a tree that only blooms on new growth. Drain it or prune it back to the roots.. there will be a lot of growing pains because radio is over as a music medium and it took drastic measures for people to realize this.
One thing always scared me about smooth jazz musicians post-BA compared to musicians in other genres. Smooth Jazz musicians often referred to the music they play as "the format." I've never heard a country, pop, or R&B artist refer to their music as a format..always as the music. hmmmmmmm....
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#81247 - 03/29/08 01:53 PM
Re: Just a matter of time
[Re: Shannon West]
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Jacksonville stations WJSJ (105.3 FM) and WSJF (105.5 FM) switched formats to what has been termed as rhythmic adult contemporary music.
Is there someone in the area?
Which one is the next station?
They were a full time broadcast Architecture SJ Network affiliate. You can't play songs that are 30-40 years old and survive in a city where the average age is 35. These people were 5 years old when "Feels So Good" came out and just a glint in their mama's eyes when "You are The Sunshine Of My Life" was released. And that was the core music this station was playing. No loss. Nobody listened anyway. Now we can get a brunch show going that will play more SJ in 4 hours on a Sunday morning than BA Network plays in a week.
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#81260 - 03/30/08 08:05 AM
Indie Music
[Re: Shannon West]
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Shannon... My phone has been busy, listening to people talk about their upcoming projects. There's a new energy that wasn't present before, now that the format is ending. The music will reflect that and we should start to hear the results soon.
That said.... a long awaited project will be available at CD Baby soon.... Frank Felix's "Tales From the Funky Underground" will be available in mid-April. The CDs have been sent and will be listed soon. Good example of how timing has helped.... Frank's music is too funky for the smoothies, and will have a better chance now.
I expect CD Baby and Payloadz.com to be strong distribution sources for digital music.
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#81261 - 03/30/08 08:33 AM
Re: Indie Music
[Re: Kat]
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Kat, cdbaby.com is a gold mine! I've bough a ton of music off that site. I mean really good music not available anywhere else. From Jazz to funk and even bass players (my forte)!
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