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#30985 - 03/13/03 08:04 PM
"Clone" smooth jazz artists
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Which smooth jazz artists do you think are "clones" of an earlier smooth jazz artist? (example: similar in style)
Dave Koz - "clone" of Kenny G
Brian Hughes - "clone" of Pat Metheney and Larry Carlton
Norman Brown - "clone" of George Benson
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#30987 - 03/14/03 07:44 AM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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Originally posted by Smooth-Pink-Jazz:
Dave Koz - "clone" of Kenny G
Brian Hughes - "clone" of Pat Metheney and Larry Carlton
Norman Brown - "clone" of George Benson I think Dave Koz is quite unique in his sound. No clone there! Brian Hughes also has a unique sound. His reverb effects on his guitar may sound similar to Metheny but his music is way different. No clone there. Norman Brown clearly is influenced by Benson or even Wes Montgomery but I think his music has way more energy than Benson has ever done. I don't feel he is trying to be a clone!
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#30988 - 03/14/03 09:41 AM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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Dave Koz ? A clone of Kenny G.? No way! Apples and oranges right there. For better or for worse, Kenny G. has a sound all his own :rolleyes: .
Norman Brown and George Benson - One can definitely hear the George Benson influences in Norman Brown's music, however, I don't think "clone" is the best choice of words to use. These guys were discussed on another contemporary jazz forum, and someone there brought up the point that even though Brown is heavily influenced by Benson, he is "finding his own voice" as well. Actually, this is also paraphrasing DWBass too.
Now, as far as cloned musicians, I can't tell one pop boy group from another. They all sound alike to me. And the "Ohhh baby baby please" R&B male singers :rolleyes: forget it!
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#30990 - 03/14/03 12:03 PM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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Originally posted by CountJS: Dave Koz clone of Kenny G? That's like saying Mindi Abair is a clone of Martha Stewart! THANK YOU!! I was about to say...I can't really think of ANYBODY who can be considered a "clone" of Kenny G! (Thank God!!) :rolleyes:
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#30991 - 03/14/03 12:08 PM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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Originally posted by CountJS: soeaking of clones, I would like a clone of Mindi A - is that possible? :)  !!! AG & V, Cabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbage noobie
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#30992 - 03/14/03 12:22 PM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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Lots of bands but individual artists?? Hmmmm.
Peter White / Ken Navarro ??
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#30993 - 03/14/03 01:06 PM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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I prefer All Music Guide's setup * influences *similar artists * followers example: Pat Metheny similar artists - John Abercrombie followers - Brian Hughes influences - Wes Montgomery -------------------------- At this time, I cant think of any that would be a "musical clone"........George Benson/Norman Brown (more like a mentor/protege thing)...but GB is multi genre and NB only plays his current style...but yeah, probably if they both do an R&B groove instrumental. although I'd like a Mindi clone too 
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#30994 - 03/14/03 01:32 PM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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As long as we are taking orders, I'd like a Metheny clone with a side order of Al Jarreau. And a Steve Oliver clone because I usually need cheering up and he does that..and Richard Smith and Freddie Ravel so we can have east coast and west coast versions touring at the same time. You cali folks are getting too many great concerts in small clubs! , and don't forget Miles G. from AA because he makes me laugh and he is so not a yuppie.
Koz is definitely not a G-clone. Koz doesn't scare my cat or make the dog howl with that ongoing circular breathing thing.
There was some guy named Dean James that put out a really slow CD a few years ago that seemed to be a Boney Cloney. Dezona sounded a little like AA too
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#30995 - 03/14/03 02:03 PM
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Would you say that Brian Hughes is more of a clone of Larry Carlton or Pat Metheney?
At Brian's website, he even says he has some influence from George Benson.
BTW, I just always though Kenny G and Dave Koz's music to be very similar in some ways.
Also, I think of Richard Elliot being a clone of David Sanborn at times.
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#30996 - 03/14/03 04:09 PM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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I'm not sure clone is the operative word, but if there is one of Kenny G, I submit that Najee fits the bill. But, like most, I prefer "strong influence" to clone. On the other hand, a clone isn't an exact copy. It has the same genetic makeup, but different environment and different experiences give it different characteristics. In that respect, Norman Brown is a clone of George Benson. Patterned after him, but with a distinct personality. Mindi? Hmmm. The closest I can think of is Tom Scott ... sax player, not entirely smooth and definitely not straight-ahead, mixing pop rhythms with jazz. And like Tom, Mindi sings on one of her tracks (Ref: Down to Your Soul on the Blow It Out album). Can you hear Mindi doing the sax solo on Steely Dan's "Gaucho"?
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#30998 - 03/14/03 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by CountJS: speaking of clones, I would like a clone of Mindi A - is that possible? Or Candy Dulfer, Joyce Cooling or Pamela Williams! 
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#30999 - 03/15/03 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by DWBass: Originally posted by CountJS: speaking of clones, I would like a clone of Mindi A - is that possible? Or Candy Dulfer, Joyce Cooling or Pamela Williams! Hey, now, I saw Pam first j/k, but one can dream. Never mind, you can keep Pam. My picks: Gabriela Anders, Samantha Siva, Eliane Elias 
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#31000 - 03/24/03 08:09 PM
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After over two years since it's release, I finally decided to purchase Citrus Sun's Another Time Another Space. I put it off for the longest because I never really was that impressed with their sound. However, a couple of weeks ago, I was listening to sound clips from this album and I was finally able to get into their groove. I've had the album for about a week now, and speaking of clones. These guys are essentially the instrumental divergence of Incognito after they decided to become mainly vocal several years ago. They're a lot more subdued, laid back, and low-keyed than Incognito, but essentially they have the same sound as "instrumental" Incognito. But they should. After all, they're the creation of long time Incognito head Jean-Paul "Bluey" Maunick. 
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#31001 - 04/01/03 06:40 AM
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I would loooove a clone of Bryan Savage (tho I have no idea what he looks like) - he plays such funky songs, I can't get enuf of em.  I love his style with flute and sax (IMHO there aren't enuf funky flutists out there  ).
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#31002 - 04/01/03 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by SunshineNSnowflakes: Bryan Savage...I have no idea what he looks like... Well, here ya go... http://www.bryansavage.com/Photo_Gallery/photo_gallery.html
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#31003 - 04/01/03 05:44 PM
Re: "Clone" smooth jazz artists
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D'oh! Thanks smjzzfan - and to think I had his site bookmarked *blush* - gonna trade in this brain for a new one, one of these days.
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